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Post by dunnagi on May 12, 2017 19:44:19 GMT
Man, I hate having a living Seer out there.
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Post by chaosboomer on May 13, 2017 9:46:10 GMT
So Holman was a normie and was recruited by Zarek?
Figure Scoop was hoping to lure Tigh with this lunacy.
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Post by dunnagi on May 13, 2017 12:52:53 GMT
Yep. Oh well - we can maybe still capitalize on the mess - and his naming you should actually serve you well.
Any thoughts on next kill and scan?
LASSR, If bb2112 was Zarek (i.e. First Night Kill) - would we have 1 traitor or none the next morning?
I think the Traitor thing is hard to fight. Too many enemies sorta starts to make it not a fought victory and more just luck in the end.
While it's a cool mechanism where the Specials and the Cylons are sorta grouped 'against the Traitors' - we cannot and will never 'align' and well - it's just hard to feel like accounting for it, and that then leads me to sorta just not even care, which then just makes me not put as much into playing.
Still - I'm enjoying myself, just sharing my feelings.
I guess I'm not enjoying the fact that at some point the Traitors know who is and isn't special and their ranks grow and coordinate - Hard to fight. (with out just blindly killing Zarek)
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Post by Admin on May 13, 2017 17:56:07 GMT
Yes, BB could have recruited if he was Zarek. Here is the updated sequence.
Night Sequence: Zarek recruits Boomer -Who will you scan block? Felix Gaeta -Which 3 players to scan for Cylon (if condition met) Apollo- Who will you scan? DeAnna- Who will you scan? Daniel -Will you plant bomb? Cylons kill
The traitors cannot coordinate, they cannot communicate with each other. They are just humans going along for the ride and if the humans win then they have a chance to take the victory from the normal good guys. Of course they do know who is on their team so you are right that they would not vote for each other. Hmmm. I may have finally messed up a mechanic of one of my games.
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Post by dunnagi on May 13, 2017 19:44:18 GMT
Yes, BB could have recruited if he was Zarek. Here is the updated sequence. Night Sequence: Zarek recruits Boomer -Who will you scan block? Felix Gaeta -Which 3 players to scan for Cylon (if condition met) Apollo- Who will you scan? DeAnna- Who will you scan? Daniel -Will you plant bomb? Cylons kill The traitors cannot coordinate, they cannot communicate with each other. They are just humans going along for the ride and if the humans win then they have a chance to take the victory from the normal good guys. Of course they do know who is on their team so you are right that they would not vote for each other. Hmmm. I may have finally messed up a mechanic of one of my games. And also, (and it's big) Zarek is a double-check on who is or isn't 'a special/cylon'... Which just makes it so that in order to survive, we need to (rather quickly) kill Saul, Gaeta (who would just blow the game wide open), and Zarek, and maybe even Apollo - because they all keep us from actually being able to claim anything and yet Zarek is someone who expects us to declare special. Traitors will follow his votes (I imagine). Maybe I'm just seeing it from our side, but we are really quite locked-down.
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Post by dunnagi on May 13, 2017 22:49:38 GMT
Vorret, Newcastle, Remus catch my eye. I probably shouldn't be ignoring El Guapo - Zarek like.
I want to scan Newcastle, and I want to kill Remus and Vorret.
Who am I ignoring.
Any thoughts?
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Post by Admin on May 13, 2017 23:03:05 GMT
If Zarek comes out and he is lynched, he loses. He does not get the victory with the humans. Not sure that is a deterrent or not.
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Post by chaosboomer on May 14, 2017 2:41:31 GMT
1. BB2112 2. Vorret 3. El Guapo 4. Remus West 5. Punisher 6. Unagi 7. Archinerd 8. Holman 9. Chaosraven 10. Scoop 11. Grundbegriff 12. tru1cy 13. Moliere 14. Newcastle 15. Stessier
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Post by chaosboomer on May 14, 2017 2:44:13 GMT
Lynch of Moliere - cannot be Zarek or Tigh
We killed bb2112, could have been Tigh or Zarek
Lynch of Grund - cannot be Tigh
We killed Punisher - Gaeta
Holman is Normal, recruited by Zarek either Night One or Night Two.
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Post by chaosboomer on May 14, 2017 2:44:42 GMT
Scoop is apparently Daniel
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Post by dunnagi on May 14, 2017 16:36:17 GMT
2. Vorret - Human/Zarek/Saul/Apollo/Anders 3. El Guapo - Human/Zarek/Saul/Apollo/Anders 4. Remus West - Human/Zarek/Saul/Apollo/Anders 7. Archinerd - Human/Zarek/Saul/Apollo/Anders 8. Holman - HumanTraitor 12. tru1cy - Human/Zarek (maybe anything) 14. Newcastle - Human/Zarek/Saul/Apollo/Anders 15. Stessier - Human/Zarek/Saul/Apollo/Anders
13. Moliere - Human/Zarek 1. BB2112 - Human/Zarek/Saul/Apollo 11. Grundbegriff - Human/Zarek 5. Punisher - Gaeta
6. Unagi - D'Anna 9. Chaosraven - Boomer 10. Scoop - Daniel
Game Started with 7 "Powerless Humans". Could be as few as 4 Powerless Humans left - we know Holman is 1 of those 4. Tru1cy stands a good chance of being 1 of those 4.
So Perhaps Just 2 Powerless Humans in:
2. Vorret - Human/Zarek/Saul/Apollo/Anders 3. El Guapo - Human/Zarek/Saul/Apollo/Anders 4. Remus West - Human/Zarek/Saul/Apollo/Anders 7. Archinerd - Human/Zarek/Saul/Apollo/Anders 14. Newcastle - Human/Zarek/Saul/Apollo/Anders 15. Stessier - Human/Zarek/Saul/Apollo/Anders
If it's more - that's jut Better news.
We want to avoid Anders. Kill Saul and/or Scan... Kill Apollo.
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Post by chaosboomer on May 14, 2017 23:38:05 GMT
Moliere cannot have been Zarek.
He was lynched before first Night, and you found a Traitor.
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Post by dunnagi on May 15, 2017 1:46:16 GMT
OK, so El Guapo had just made me start to think that HE is Saul.
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Post by dunnagi on May 15, 2017 1:46:49 GMT
Moliere cannot have been Zarek. He was lynched before first Night, and you found a Traitor. Zarek is allowed to make a traitor Before we kill him.
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Post by dunnagi on May 15, 2017 1:49:01 GMT
Moliere cannot have been Zarek. He was lynched before first Night, and you found a Traitor. Zarek is allowed to make a traitor Before we kill him. You are right, I was missing your point. But - it doesn't change much. Still BB2112 could have made a Traitor and also been Zarek - so in that we may have 1 Traitor and No Zarek.
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