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Post by dunnagi on May 17, 2017 19:00:59 GMT
I think we want/need to kill El Guapo tonight to keep him from exposing a number of things: He may have tried and failed to recruit Punisher on Night 1. He may have tried and failed to recruit me any of these nights - which would force my hand to Claim Apollo tomorrow or likely be exposed. And I sorta feel maybe we scan stessier ... Slightly better odds at getting a? (check my work) ( Also, I am banking on tru1cy not being Anders...) Scan Newcastle as Civilian (stessier = Anders) -- Possible Scan Newcastle as Apollo (stessier = Anders) -- Possible Scan Newcastle as Anders (stessier = Apollo/Civ/Traitor) -- Possible Scan stessier as Civilian (Newcastle = Anders) -- Possible Scan stessier as Apollo (Newcastle = Anders) -- Not Likely IMO Scan stessier as Anders(Newcastle = Apollo/Civ/Traitor) -- Likely IMO 6 possible outcomes. All of which lead us to understand who is Anders (Unless it's tru1cy...) So, I guess maybe it doesn't matter who we pick - but maybe scan the one we feel is most likely Anders.. Pretty sure that's what you already said before, in one single sentence...
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Post by dunnagi on May 17, 2017 19:28:34 GMT
Of all my permutations - this looks like the best start we could hope for maybe (after a Vorret lynch today):
El Guapo - NIGHT 4 KILL Scan stessier and find he is ANDERS UnagiApollo SCAN RemusWest - SCANNED as SAUL NIGHT 4 - VORRET MUST HAVE BEEN FAKE! CRGaeta - (Newcastle/tru1cy/stessier) -q:"contain Cylon?" (a: "YES!") OMG.
or something.
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Post by dunnagi on May 17, 2017 20:22:11 GMT
I wanna see if El Guapo tried to signal that maybe he had trouble converting anyone upon day break...
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Post by dunnagi on May 17, 2017 21:10:52 GMT
(nothing from El Guapo that I saw...)
But man... Anders: he is just a win-win for the good guys. No risk - just gain... He will be coming out tomorrow (or as a gotcha today) and earn them an extra day. Built in miss really.
This will be day 7 win at the soonest I think.
Perhaps our 'clearing' of Anders will serve to bypass that use of him. (highly doubtful)
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Post by dunnagi on May 18, 2017 3:00:39 GMT
Well. El Guapo seems to have almost branded his posse' just now (perhaps)
From El Guapo: 1 Vorret---------- Boomer? 2 El Guapo------- Pure as the driven snow 3 Unagi---------- ? 4 Holman-------- Lean good 5 Chaosraven--- ? - Secret mime 6 tru1cy---------- Probably a humble villager 7 Newcastle----- Lean good 8 Stessier-------- ?
I fear that Newcastle is perhaps part of his team right now. (perhaps tru1cy isn't...) Is 'lean good' the key?
So, we may need to let an Anders/Stessier .... oh - man - this is just going to be so screwed - I'm not sure we can get out of this.
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Post by dunnagi on May 18, 2017 3:29:53 GMT
Maybe Gaeta ask (Holman, tru1cy, Newcastle) and the answer is Yes. Leaving perhaps Holman/tru1cy/Newcastle to decide among them who it is... this after I declare Vorret was Fake and we learn that Stessier is likely Anders.
(be so crazy if tru1cy ends up being Anders)
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Post by dunnagi on May 18, 2017 3:50:44 GMT
IF I were to fake Apollo in the morning... (proof read for me please)
** FIXED AN ERROR I HAD ** I was going to say I had no Scann on Night 1, but (El Guapo's question made me realize) I would be allowed to scan Moliere. ** ALSO - - In the event that REMUS was very briefly a Traitor and Holman knows this - I can't call Remus Saul (which was what I thought was best at first) - I think I am forced to say that Punisher was Saul, and that I didn't need to scan Vorret - and instead scanned Remus.
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Ok, well I am Apollo folks. (sorry to disappoint) Night 1 - Scanned Moliere - Civilian Night 2 - Scanned BB2112 - Civilian Night 3 - Scanned Punisher - Saul Tigh Night 4 - Scanned Remus - Civilian
Currently I'm feeling that Newcastle is likely evil and stessier likely good. Chaosraven and Holman - same level of neutral (with some concern), with CR getting a little credit for being Scoop's "blocked scan". El Guapo felt mostly good, and clearly was. Tru1cy didn't blink at N-1.
So, I'm inclined to vote Newcastle, but I would like to hear from everyone if there is other information out there.
haven't seen Gaeta. Anders is still with us.
-- -- That would be my end message.
1.-- Not sure I should do it (although I appear to be high on people lists anyhow. 2.-- Not sure if that would then make your Gaeta claim to be particularly suspicious, and I'm not sure if we should go with Both, one, or the other....
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Post by dunnagi on May 18, 2017 16:44:43 GMT
OK.
NEWS FLASH
I am going to just come out right now as Apollo.
It strikes me that with the information I have right now - I wouldn't be holding back as Apollo until tomorrow - and I feel that tomorrow we really do need to do this.
Maybe it's a mistake - but - well Scoop - I thank you for giving me the bravery and leeway to just fucking go for it.
I am going to come out as Apollo right now.
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Post by dunnagi on May 18, 2017 16:54:22 GMT
OK, my deed is done.
Sorry - I was just impatient. Wanted to get this game moving and hopefully over soon.
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Post by dunnagi on May 18, 2017 16:55:52 GMT
And I'm sure I probably screwed something up.... but - it felt like the right thing to do if I was going to be Apollo eventually.
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Post by dunnagi on May 18, 2017 17:24:55 GMT
And- Oh my god did I blow it.
I fucking left in my 'past tense' comment on El Guapo. And I've already flashed the plan to kill him in a way... yeeesh.
oops
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Post by dunnagi on May 18, 2017 18:45:29 GMT
Sorry if this ends up being the monkey wrench that derails everything....
Man - I can't play these games - I'm way too impatient.
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Post by dunnagi on May 18, 2017 20:38:50 GMT
Crap - sorry Chaos. I blew it. Got anxious.
Honestly though - I do wonder how this would have turned out had I not done this (I saw tomorrow being a disaster just about no matter what).
Anyhow - it's not over yet, but I'm not going to have a lot of time in the next few days (which was sorta what made me do this) -
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Post by dunnagi on May 18, 2017 20:39:57 GMT
Of course - I will blame you... I needed you last night. You left me hanging! Nothing - not a single post. Damn you. You left me to my own devices and this is where it got us.
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Post by chaosboomer on May 18, 2017 22:37:24 GMT
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Oh that is priceless.
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