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Post by dunnagi on May 16, 2017 22:58:50 GMT
I like the idea that Newcastle may not be Apollo - and if he comes out tomorrow after you declared that you know El Guapo, Holman, and Unagi are human.. El Guapo is dead - so Holman will perhaps cling to the last raft he has there and he's very ready to jump on Stessier - and Newcastle coming out as Apollo - AFTER NOT COMING OUT TODAY - will be easy (a little) to tear down in argument, if it seems to be done to save Stessier/tru1cy/Newcastle from your assignment of them being the only possible Cylons. What's nice is that there are 3 of them, so they won't just all think you are lying, they will maybe fight it out.
Could work.
(I assume this is more or less what you have in mind from what you've been saying / posting)
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Post by dunnagi on May 16, 2017 23:34:00 GMT
I feel a little optimistic (not in us winning, but there being a few good moments for us still before we are snuffed out).
I mean; if we were to all suddenly test Stessier and he were to come up 'Anders' - well, then we would perhaps then be forced to let Vorret survive the night and kill Newcastle. Tomorrow would then likely turn into a test on Vorret, I would think. - and following that Gaeta could close the game. (and I could even claim Apollo)
(I'm not thinking this through, I've just had a couple beers)
forgot about our Zarek problem too there a minute.
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Post by chaosboomer on May 16, 2017 23:46:23 GMT
Part of this relies on Vorret being lynched today, because sadly it does make more sense for the village to lynch stessier.
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Post by chaosboomer on May 16, 2017 23:51:51 GMT
2 Vorret - TIGH
12 tru1cy 14 Newcastle 15 Stessier ============= 3 El Guapo - ZAREK 8 Holman - citizen TRAITOR ============= 6 Unagi 9 Chaosraven
eight players, and we need it to be 4. if vorret goes down we can kill Holman (knowing he isn't Anders) that's 6
We only need to scan someone and find them to be Anders (to avoid lynching or killing him) or find them to be NotAnders and we can lynch or kill that player.
that'd be four and we win.
Mostly that endgame depends on NOT lynching or NightKilling Anders.
I guess finding Anders with the scan would be better, since that leaves us everyone else to target
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Post by chaosboomer on May 16, 2017 23:55:12 GMT
be nice for them to run stessier up to a reveal (if not Anders) Finding Apollo would give us an answer. Heck, finding Anders gives us the other two.
Tense tense tense.
This is how I like these games to go.
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Post by chaosboomer on May 16, 2017 23:58:06 GMT
And yes, I was toying with the Gaeta. As obviously I can claim that I had no scan, missing the Scoop vote. And have a scan based on Vorret being Cylon, whether Tigh or not.
Need only the lynch and the kill to win. If we get a good scan, we have Holman and El Guapo available as NOT Anders, though linked. Getting a NonTraitor would be good for the lynch, leaving us to kill El G or Holman for the win.
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Post by chaosboomer on May 17, 2017 0:05:25 GMT
well let's see how many flock to the Holman stessier vote now that vorret joined it. El G is Holmans traitorous comrade, then stessier cannot be a traitor. If El G has a 4 Pack, stessier is Anders and Apollo is dead. If stessier is Apollo, El G can only have a 3 pack as Anders is among Newc and tru1cy. With as many Specials and Cylons in this game, Zarek has a good chance of either having missed on one of "us" or having a teammate die in bb2112, Grund, Remus, or Archinerd.
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Post by dunnagi on May 17, 2017 4:35:13 GMT
Yeah, I very much want to join the Vorret vote here. But as you say - stessier is more of a test - and also the desire to lynch Vorret is to put trust in Apollo maybe... which may be busting your chops on the Gaeta thing.
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Post by Admin on May 17, 2017 4:35:23 GMT
No, all results are giving simultaneously. well I know that, I am just saying that the Order of the Night Orders seems to implicate that I could Scan Bubba - and then Later Kill Bubba, and you could tell me something like "Bubba was a disc jockey, but he's dead now"
No?
No
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Post by dunnagi on May 17, 2017 4:40:40 GMT
I think I am going to argue that I think the three were Newcastle, Vorret, and Scoop. If Newcastle comes out tomorrow to throw anything out for Vorret or against You as Gaeta, it may help.. but if he is on the Vorret vote - not sure how we frame him ever. I guess if he on the Vorret vote there is a very strong chance that he scans Vorret.
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Post by dunnagi on May 17, 2017 4:41:31 GMT
well I know that, I am just saying that the Order of the Night Orders seems to implicate that I could Scan Bubba - and then Later Kill Bubba, and you could tell me something like "Bubba was a disc jockey, but he's dead now"
No?
No
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Post by dunnagi on May 17, 2017 5:39:57 GMT
The reason I think we want to kill El Guapo over Holman is that El Guapo is in a position to say something like: "Well.... I tried to recruit Unagi and I couldn't"
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Post by dunnagi on May 17, 2017 6:27:42 GMT
Alright, I've laid down a little work on Vorret. damn cylon.
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Post by dunnagi on May 17, 2017 15:59:11 GMT
(if Vorrret is lynched...) I wonder if I really need to come out early tomorrow as Apollo to announce something. In order to thwart anything that El Guapo learns (like that he couldn't convert me) It would need to gel with your Gaeta claim - and we would want to Not list anyone that could be a traitor as a possible cylon. A lot of plans I come up with (all) have flaws.... HELP!
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Post by dunnagi on May 17, 2017 18:32:44 GMT
So so so many ways to play this. and all of them are so easily defeated by Zarek's knowledge (or any number of special) Could you imagine if Gaeta was still alive? LOL!
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